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As I’ve taught my children to say when they don't like a meal they've been served, here’s my take on the anti-gay bigotry of Chick-fil-A: “No thank you, I prefer something else.”

The recent barnyard brawling over the anti-gay stance of Chick-fil-A has certainly raised a commotion in the hen-house. Squawking and cackles erupted over news of statements made by the fast food eatery’s president/COO Dan Cathy, who seemed to publicly embrace that position after growing attention focused on donations the company makes to anti-gay groups.

In an interview, Cathy told the Baptist Press, “We are very much supportive of the family – the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that. We operate as a family business ... our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that.”

In another interview, Cathy reiterated his belief:  “I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, ‘We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage.’ I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about.”

Just in case it wasn’t explicitly clear, Cathy was blunt about describing the company’s support of ‘traditional’ marriage, “Guilty as charged.”

Cathy, the son of Chick-fil-A’s founder, made these statements after reports surfaced that the company, via its charitable arm, made close to $2 million in donations to groups actively working to discriminate against homosexuals and the LGBT community, including making some behaviors illegal and criminal, here and abroad. The issue at hand isn’t just about gay marriage, but also about employment, life choices, health insurance and, in some cases, survival.

Let's be very clear about the brouhaha raised after Cathy’s comments:  This is NOT a first amendment issue; it’s really a civil rights issue. When you have an organization contributing money to groups actively engaged in trying to disenfranchise, segregate and isolate—let alone strip away civil rights from citizens—it is clearly a civil rights issue.

I emphatically contend that Cathy is entitled both to his opinion and his freedom to express it. In fact, I’m gratified that he has expressed it, because now we know where we stand, with him and with his company. His statements demonstrate his prejudices and bigotry, and they shed light on the discriminatory efforts his company’s profits support.

I’m perplexed by the contradictory nature of Cathy’s statement, characterizing those who have the ‘audacity to define what marriage is about’ as ‘prideful’ and ‘arrogant.’ Isn’t that exactly what Cathy was doing? Defining what marriage should be—between a man and a woman?

Protesters speaking out and demonstrating against those views are not intolerant of them. They are merely expressing their own view, that discrimination and segregation—whether cloaked in religious, moral or first amendment arguments—is still bigotry.

Imagine learning that KFC contributes to organizations campaigning for outlawing marriage between men and women of different races, based on arguments of sanctity or morality. Imagine discovering that the president of Taco Bell donates significant company profits to organizations that campaign for removing tax-exempt status of churches and synagogues, because of his interpretation of the phrase, ‘separation of church and state.’ If those moves were true, we’d certainly classify them as bigotry. So too, can we call Chick-fil-A’s actions as bigoted.

I’m glad to see that there have been mounting boycotts and protests against Chick-fil-A’s corporate dealings. They are not intolerant of someone else’s opinions or religious beliefs. Instead, such protests demonstrate an intolerance of intolerance itself, akin to those that that advanced civil rights legislation forward 50-60 years ago, and beyond. They harken back to sit-ins, Rosa Parks, abolitionists, Stonewall and women suffragists. We have a national history of accomplishing legislative equality and increasing public support in this way—that, to me, is more American than anything else.

In this case, like the others, it’s also tantamount to standing up to a bully.

But if we’re searching for some sort of religious foundation for condemning Chick-fil-A and Dan Cathy, perhaps we should look no further than the Golden Rule which, in addition to having some basis in all of the world’s major religions and ethical traditions, is a major tenet of Christianity:  “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” It’s also expressed: “Love your neighbor as you would yourself.”

Isn’t that the most traditional value of all?

 

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Teleman August 7, 2012 at 08:43 pm
Now the man is a bigot?- keep this stuff up, it just further seals Bamas ( and the Dems ) fate in November.
jo August 8, 2012 at 11:11 am
Your denial of freedom of speech is disturbing... First Amendment so important.. teach your kids that too..that different views are OK... I will continue now more then ever to support Chick Fil A.. BTW I patronize many restaurants whose servers are gay... makes no diff to .me.. Shall we ask all the stores and restaurants we go to What All Their View Are ??
jo August 8, 2012 at 11:13 am
one more thing.. how would the Patch feel if we boycotted Patch cause of Liz's views... it works both ways
Patty Villanova August 8, 2012 at 12:44 pm
The bigotry and intolerance of the Left never ceases to amaze me, especially when it comes to our most basic American freedoms. That's right AMERICAN freedoms; the only country in the history of the world whose founding fathers came up with a goverment that guaranteed in its Constitution the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Inalienable Rights that were not man made but bestowed by our Creator which I'm sure has Heather and her buds really in a tizz because I actually dared to write those words in a public commentary. The Judeo Christian values that Mr. Cathy espouses are what makes this country a beacon of freedom for the rest of the world. While we conservatives may vehemently disagree with your views, we will fight for your right to express those views without free of reprisal. Try promoting gay rights and homosexual behavior in the half of the world that follows the Koran and you will quickly learn about real intolerance. The truth is that what's happening here is defining deviancy down. People like Ms. Herve are not content to simply have their own opinions; instead she wants them forced on the rest of society, including children. I am no prude but I'm outraged at the sexual mores that are being taught in schools today; topics that were once considered X-rated. Mr. Cathy has it right. I wish there was a Chik Fil A nearby that I could support.
sayitsnotsojack August 8, 2012 at 02:59 pm
Talk about a left wing loony rewriting history. Chik Fil A has now become the poster boy for all that is decent and moral. Thank you Mr. Cathy.
Heather Borden Herve August 8, 2012 at 03:20 pm
Jo, to simplify and clarify what I wrote: I do not take issue with Mr. Cathy's views; he is completely entitled to hold them and believe and say what he likes. I DO take issue with his company using profits to fund organizations that try to prevent LGBT from being granted equal rights, that try to oppress and discriminate against the gay community, It's not because he holds the views; it's because he ACTS on them in such a way to promote discrimination. It is the ACTION, not the BELIEF that is objectionable. For those actions against another group of human beings to be based in religious rationale (however misguided) is even more dangerous.
BlackDawg August 9, 2012 at 11:01 am
This piece wins the award for the most poorly written article I've ever read on a Patch.
jo August 9, 2012 at 11:10 am
and Heather I take issue with my tax dollars being used for infanticide..which it most definitely finds it way to do.. or to fund programs such as putting A Crucifix in a jar of urine, or putting mud all over the Virgin Mary ,( BTW I hold NO religious belief)..but do have a moral code. but I do not call for boycotts of these events..
Kelly Denton August 9, 2012 at 02:30 pm
I don't see what boycotting something you don't agree with has to do with stamping on First Amendment Rights. My family and I have been boycotting Chick-fil-A since this news broke. I know other families who feel the same way. If you don't like what an organization stands for, it is your choice whether to spend your money supporting them. I think Heather makes a pretty good point about the idea that it's perplexing how contradictory certain views can be about "defining" marriage and family. This is an opinion piece, and she is entitled to her opinion. As are you.
Walden Macnair August 9, 2012 at 03:29 pm
Why is it okay to boycot the Dixie Chicks for something they said and not okay to boycot Chick Fil A for something they said?
Sean M September 11, 2012 at 09:56 pm
Heather, Chick is a private company. Feel free to start your own and spend the profits as you see fit.
Your comment about equal rights is not accurate. Marriage is not a right. It is a legal recognition. I did enjoy your comment about religious people being "misguided". That is completely rude and out of line. You are in the minority in this world on this issue.
Sean M September 11, 2012 at 10:04 pm
This whole marriage issue is filled with gross misrepresentations.
Marriage is a legal recognition. It is not a right. This difference is huge. The other problem with the gay marriage movement is they make every action about being against gays. Supporting marriage between 1 man and 1 woman has nothing to do with gays. People who support it see this version of marriage as the only legitimate one. What the Left does is make everything about them. If you believe in marriage as one man and one woman, then you are intolerant, a bigot, a homophobe, and many other names. The Left in this country wants the family unit destroyed. They have been working on it for decades. When children are born out of wedlock to single moms, the likelihood of being poor skyrockets. More poor equals more dependence on government. That translates to votes for Democrats. God made us so we need a male and a female to have kids. That family unit worked for centuries, until the Great Society. The other problem is the gay marriage movement really wants acceptance of homosexuality as mainstream. No act of government will ever make someone accept the gay lifestyle.
Sean M September 11, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Patty
Right on target.
Heather Borden Herve September 12, 2012 at 01:49 am
Sean, you misquote me. I did NOT say "religious people are misguided." my exact quote: "For those actions against another group of human beings to be based in religious rationale (however misguided) is even more dangerous." To explain and excuse discrimination or segregation based on religious rationale is, to me, misguided, and also is unkind, uncharitable and intolerant -- which runs counter to Judeo-Christian religious ethics. PS I am a member of a religion and would never classify a group of people (let alone an entire religion) as 'misguided.' We also disagree on minority/majority of thought.
As I wrote several times, in the piece and in these comments, I believe Mr. Cathy is absolutely entitled to his views. I also believe I am entitled to write about the ACTIONS his company takes against a group of people so that consumers are free to choose whether or not to patronize his business.
Kelly Denton September 12, 2012 at 02:05 pm
No. The Left wants the family unit to reflect all family units. Without the legal recognition for all families, family as a whole is undermined.
The Left may want acceptance of homosexuality (something present since the dawn of time in every species of animal on Earth) as mainstream. But it does not expect that the government will Make anyone Do anything.
Sean M September 12, 2012 at 02:55 pm
The only way to have a family is with a mom and a dad making a child.
Homosexuality is not mainstream. It will not be accepted just because someone wants it to. Liberals accept anything and everything, without thinking how it affects people.
Kelly Denton September 12, 2012 at 03:07 pm
If "the only way to have a family is with a mom and a dad making a child," what about all the children that moms and dads abandon and are raised successfully by single parents or same-sex parents, by aunts and uncles, grandparents, family friends? Are those units not families? I say those units are as much families as any other units. It only takes a single act of sex to make a child, but it takes any number of different types of units to raise those children.
Now, back to the marriage movement. The union of two people should not be such a hot issue for people not involved in the union itself. Everyone should have the privilege having their union legally recognized. Because what is available for one should be available for all.
Sean M September 12, 2012 at 03:25 pm
It is not relevant. Mom and dad is what a child needs. Who are you to decide that you know better than nature.
Since you have such a great position, let the people vote on it. Your side never wins when it is done. Why is that?? Changing the definition of a family affects the entire country as a whole. Your side shows NO regard to the religious rights or parental rights of others. Once marriage is a right, then you liberals attack and attack some more. You start teaching people's kids about sex, homosexuality, and the rest of it, substituting your judgment for the parents. You demand that churches then marry you, in direct violation to the 1st Amendment. I can keep going, but you might look up what happens after gay marriage comes up and what happens first. At the end of the day, let the people vote on marriage. Traditional always wins. Gay marriage has never won. There will be more initiatives in November. Traditional marriage will win again. Marriage is not a right. It is a legal recognition. The equality argument holds zero weight.
Kelly Denton September 12, 2012 at 03:46 pm
It is relevant. Mom and dad may be what a child needs, but sometimes they don't have a mom and dad. Sometimes they have no one, or worse yet, they have a mom and dad that hurt them.
I do not know better than nature, nor did I claim to. Also, no one is claiming that the definition of family should change, except you. You seem to think the constitution says that "Family should be between a mother and a father and their children..." I think the definition of Marriage should change, and that is my personal opinion. Neither did I claim that churches should be forced to marry anyone. No one should be forced into anything. Whether marriage is a right or a legal recognition, everyone deserves it. The churches idea of marriage should have no consequence, because in this country we strive to separate church and state. Tradition or not, this country has been changing since it's inception, and it will continue to do so until the end of time. Everything changes. It is inevitable. I can tell this is a very personal argument for you, and I really don't want to upset you. I understand that you feel that the Left has no regard for the Right, and I'm sure many people feel that the Right has no regard for the Left. That's how it is and that's how it has always been. People will always disagree. That is one of the things that makes life interesting.
Sean M September 12, 2012 at 04:41 pm
"Also, no one is claiming that the definition of family should change, except you."
Really? I am the only one. That is just plain silly. First of all it is not changing the definition of family, it is keeping the one we have had for centuries. You are the one that wants to change it. The Constitution does not mention marriage nor family. It should and 6 more states vote on traditional marriage and there will be a convention. You made some very inaccurate assumptions about my views. The federal government has no jurisdiction on marriage with one exception. DOMA. No state can force another to accept a gay marriage. You should also understand what "separation of church and state" means. It has a narrow definition, as defined in the 1st Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The words do not appear in the Constitution and the way you reference them is factually wrong. I can spend hours on how the left uses this issue to violate our rights. What upsets me is the lack of understanding of a number of issues of uninformed and disengaged Americans. I am not that conservative in the social arena. What bothers me is the behavior of the left. There are some on the right who do bonehead things also.
Sean M September 12, 2012 at 04:43 pm
You can look at Mayor Menino in Boston and Rahm Emanuel in Chicago. They actually stated they will stop Chick Fil A over its owners' view on marriage. That is fascism of the Soviet type.
What they did is grossly unconstitutional. If they take action to implement that, they will lose in court.

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Sue a sad fact that these days of “political correctness” individuals who exhibit rudeRead More and ignorant behavior are empowered by the rest of us. I know of a similar situation where the individuals will yell four letter words in the public areas with young children there, call others the foulest things, and in this case, they are black and gay so the race/gay card is used constantly. Until people make it known they are not going to tolerate their behavior it will not stop. Have you notified the property owner, complex board, and police, or maybe the board of health?
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and so many in the cast of characters that attend the meetings. believe Mary is a republican atRead More heart.. and here the Left of all left dem groups endorses here..mmmmmmmm just thinking out loud..
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