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The Right to Speak

Even in Peekskill, the right of free speech has its limits.

The rights confirmed in the First Amendment are indeed necessary if free people are to govern themselves. Nonetheless, it’s clear that First Amendment rights are not unlimited. Anyone who disrupts a court proceeding quickly learns that a judge may jail or fine him or her. Why are judges granted such power? The court cannot adequately conduct its business except in an orderly way, so free speech rights must be balanced with the right to a fair trial.

For over a year, Peekskill’s City Council meetings have been regularly disrupted by a group that may be sincere and passionate in pursuing its grievances, but has been willing neither to articulate them in any useful detail nor to offer any clear solutions.  Any progress the Council makes is routinely dismissed as insufficient or irrelevant. It may not be popular to say so, but this group has the right to continue making its case.

What it does not have the right to do is defy reasonable rules of order if, in the process, they interfere with the right of others to speak or to witness the conduct of the City’s (which is to say the people’s) business. The Charter of the City of Peekskill grants mayors the broadest latitude to make and alter the rules of order for meetings of the City Council at any time. In willing to be bound by a written set of rules, Mayor Foster has actually ceded one of the mayor’s few exclusive powers. How often does an elected official do that?

Deriding the need for clear rules argues against everyone’s right (including theirs) to petition their government. Written rules mean that whoever chairs a City Council meeting in future can be held to a clear standard, and can’t change the rules nightly or weekly or person by person, as sometimes happened under the previous mayor. That some mock simple rules of order as “kindergarten rules” simply demonstrates that they haven’t yet mastered the important lessons about getting along with others that most of us learned in kindergarten

Jill Gertz October 24, 2011 at 06:41 am
The Davis cadre don't want to "get along". The Alinsky tactics call for constant ridicule of opponents on a personal level (pick a target and personalize/polarize it). The goal is to upset the opponent and get them to overreact - making them look as wrong as the agent provocateur intended. There are rowdy non-residents and residents who just go to meetings to cause trouble and they should be banned instead of torturing the rules to try and secure a normal atmosphere without confronting the source of the problem. If you have a person in your house eating your cookies without permission its better to get rid of them than to ban eating cookies in the house and making everyone else jump through hoops.
Shar October 25, 2011 at 10:56 am
I agree with Jill....Mayor Bloomberg should do the same to the Occu pest
ted bitter October 25, 2011 at 11:42 am
Elizabeth get real I am a disabled Combat Veteran who marched on Washington and u don't speak for me. I am guessing you agree with the Davis Gang and all the outsiders who have maligned our City. I guess you agree with them calling anyone who happens to disagree with them awful racial epitaphs? Filming people without their approval taking it out of context and putting it on UTube? Threatening people with violence? You should not talk about party politics over morality until you totally rebuke these people and their behavior. Don't be hypocritical.
ted bitter October 25, 2011 at 11:45 am
And BTW Mary Foster's Business background and experience far exceeds any of the people opposing her in the upcoming Elections. Please check your facts.
ted bitter October 25, 2011 at 05:48 pm
So Elizabeth I guess you are suggesting that this group running in opposition to the current Administration has the real business experience and understands the nuances of the Racial composition? You have gotta be kidding!! I guess party politics means more to you than morals and compassion.
leesther brown October 26, 2011 at 01:11 pm
LOL! You are the one kidding! Morals,and Compassion ain't in this adminstration's make up. I got a whole lot of truth for you but..."Truth Is Hate For Those That Hate To Hear The Truth"
ted bitter October 26, 2011 at 02:21 pm
Ms Brown that is a great Quote I will take it into consideration. However I have no intention of getting into hostile conversations with you on the blog I thought we were past that. I will not bite that bait. You know what they say, “if a fish had kept his mouth shut we would have never been caught” have a nice day
leesther brown October 26, 2011 at 03:28 pm
Mr Bitter,how is it that when I put it out there it's hostile?!! I've applauded you when you got up and spoke out,but you need to have cojones to acknowledge that this Administration in collaboration w/ business owners in this city gave this man(Davis) the key to this city. You'll wined and dined him,even marched and stood in the crowd..Now it ain't OK?! Look! anybody that got any sense knows what/who is behind this recent "Occupation" and that "tit for tat"and "stab you in your back" politics is what has diminshed the "Quality Of Life" in this city. Man Up And Own Yours! Consider this:" You Can't Hold Hands With God..While Holding Hands With The Devil"
ted bitter October 26, 2011 at 10:27 pm
For someone who writes with intelligence you have a very limited grasp of the issues beyond your dislike for the Mayor and current administration. Your views seem to be tainted with partisan politics. And blaming the Victim for the Crime
Is not very attractive either. Just because you may think no one who mnatters pay attention to UTube does not make it right either. Right now we both r writing on a Blog which many people have the same sentiments you just stated about U tube. You can't have it both ways!
ted bitter October 26, 2011 at 10:32 pm
And our two previous Mayors what about their business development backgrounds? My hope is you had the same criticisms of them. The City under both administrations was certainly was not a shining beacon of growth bearing in mind the we were not engulfed in the worst economic climate since the great depression.
Elizabeth Claire October 26, 2011 at 11:05 pm
You seem to judge people by what they do and say, so why do you give Foster a free pass? Look at the CIty audits and budgets. You'd never know we were in hard economic times. When Foster first took office, the City spent $28 million. Next year, the City is slated to spend $36 million. No evidence of hard times in Foster's additional spending. But it's hard times for people like me who pay taxes. You should read the Democrats' PR material. They say they want to bring retail to Lower South Street. But they opposed Target on Lower South Street, saying retail jobs were bad, they didn't pay enough. Foster's only real "business development background" has been squandering good opportunities, and claiming credit for things she had no hand in bringing to Peekskill. I understand you are too close to her to be objective. It's your right to be biased. But if I were you, I'd hold her responsible for allowing things to get out of hand with Citizens for Justice. She let things get out of hand because she's not a good leader.
ted bitter October 26, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Your objectivity overwhelms me. I am really not close to Mayor Foster. Do you remember how Mayors Kelly and Testa handled Nick Mottern et al do you think they exhibited good leadership then? I won't even lower myself to comment on Citizens for Justice and to be honest, you shouldn't either. Ha back to the Target issue the GOP one and only argument. I have been to many Targets across the Northeast they are usually on Highways u enter and exit from the Highway they do nothing for the local downtown areas. And your reasons for Target not coming to Peekskill is pure propogander once again check your facts.
ted bitter October 27, 2011 at 12:30 am
Target like Walmart is one stop shopping including a starbuck in ea store no halo effect there. I won't even repond anymore to the hypocritical power grabbing diatribe cause I know you know better.
leesther brown October 27, 2011 at 01:35 am
Man Hush..Life is full of fake people before you decide to Judge them...Make sure you are not one of them.
ted bitter October 27, 2011 at 10:53 am
I run from your facts which has nothing to do with the truth.
ted bitter October 27, 2011 at 11:57 am
Narrow Partisan? Working for the greater Good? Let me tell something I spend almost every waken minute working to improve Peekskill and its people. I sold my only inheritance an old Brownstone in Bklyn myself and Drew bought an old abandoned building on South Division St put everything we have to rehabilitate it. Not one penny of Govt Funds or Grants. While it was under Construction the Republicans took photos of it and put it in a political Mailer labeling it our idea of Development. Take a look at the building now the BeanRunner Cafe attracts people from as far away as Connecticutt to come to Peekskill. The NY times dedicated a full half page to our accomplishments. I Coach track as a volunteer 5 days a week. My kids from Peekskill r in Colleges all across the Country. I am on several Bipartisan Committees working to make Peekskill a better Place for all. So once again your facts have nothing to do with the truth.
leesther brown October 28, 2011 at 04:17 am
"Look at that man bloated in self importance" Harabuk2:14

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